h1.

Critiquing Makeover

h2.

Colors

h3.

Draws attention away from content

The new colors are pretty, but I feel the new style uses the colors to highlight non-content specifics. One of the things I've like about the classic them is that it is very clean and emphasize the textual content, i.e. what people write.

bc.

  • Yo dawg, I heard you like colors, so I added a lot of colors to your page! I think one of the things this new layout does better than the previous version is actually making the content stand more out. It might not be as visible on the Nordaaker theme as it is on the default blue one, but the colors are actually the same as the current ones.

     -- arne

  • Create, Edit and Info Page stand out too much for me. An I'm not sure they are in the best location. Being right next to the title of the page. My personal preference is along the lines of Tufte and the maximum data-ink principle where the data is the content. I want the content to stand out, not all the links and options available from the page.

bc.

  • I disagree with them standing out too much, I think it pretty much (outside the content) is the most important objects on the page. I will look into different positions for them though. --- arne

h3.

Links

  • If white is used for links (not my favorite choice), it probably shouldn't be used for text that doesn't link like the title (In the master this problem exists on a smaller scale where breadcrumbs are white and linked while title is white and not linked. The new makeover moves links from the top to the left and so now the content has a bit more clutter around IMHO.

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h3

  • I think using links as white is fine as long as all whites are links. Header/Banner

    I also believe it is pretty well recognized in the sidebar links. Keep in mind you can make your own theme that changes the layout of the page, so you could put the sidebar on top. -- arne

I do like the header that spans the full page, and includes a search box. I would consider merging the title with breadcrumbs since the title might

Header/should be a part of the breadcrumb. The dislike I have with the new header is that before a mojomojo page was the same width top to bottom which coupled the parts together tightly. It's visual flow felt less clunky.

Banner

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h2

  • I very much agree with that and have updated both themes to reflect this. -- Edit

    arne

h3. Size

Edit

  • The edit area size was reduced in makeover and now seems considerably smaller than I personally find ideal.

Size

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  • Agreed, will look into this as well. -- arne